Monday, August 9, 2010

How to choose a derma roller?

There are several questions which most people have before choosing which dermaroller to buy. The key decisions required are what needle length(s) to get and which brand of roller to get.

CHOOSING THE BRAND

Although you won't be able to buy the original Dermaroller (because it's now sold only to practitioners and clinics), there are still quite a few companies that make their own rollers, some of which are of excellent quality.
I personally use the Korean Dr. Roller - they are good but expensive. I would be very suspicious about a roller that is too cheap.

I would also be careful with web shops that sell their own unbranded rollers, although some of them may be good.

Too many companies trying to ride the 'derm roller wave' have emerged. The market is now literally flooded with cheap rollers mostly made in China. For a skin piercing device - this can be quite dangerous.

I have 4 rollers now, all Dr. Roller (made in South Korea), each cost me about $55. It's expensive, but they last me a long time, and having been burnt with "unbranded" rollers, I now believe that when my current rollers dull out - I will save myself the headache and just order another set from the same manufacturer.

 UPDATE 1  See also: How to avoid fake rollers.

If you ever find another place selling HIGH QUALITY rollers, please share it with me and I'll update this section accordingly...finding a good roller from an honest company IS HARD!

 UPDATE 2 
Finally found a good place to buy rollers! www.dr-roller-shop.com! Their products are genuine and the cheapest I could find.

Also, you can use my coupon and get a 10% discount on each order you place with them (exclusive for my blog readers!).

CHOOSING THE CORRECT NEEDLE LENGTH

When ordering your roller, you will need to choose the needle length that is correct for you and the skin condition that you are treating. The common lengths are: 0.2mm, 0.3mm, 0.5mm, 1mm and 1.5mm.

0.2mm and 0.3mm

At these lengths only the epidermis (the outermost layer of the skin) is affected, and therefore there is no induction of collagen.

While useless for anti-aging purposes, the 0.2mm and 0.3mm rollers can, on the other hand, enhance the penetration of applied cosmetic creams. Other advantages are that they can be used daily (or even twice daily) and that they are totally pain-free.

0.5mm

The 0.5mm roller is ideal for facial skin, for anti-aging purposes and for treating light acne-scarring or hyper-pigmentation. This is the minimum length that inducts collagen.
  • Minimal Pain. Most people can manage without a topical anesthetic.
  • Use it 2-3 times a week, at least in the first 3 months, otherwise in my experience you will not see results.
  • After treatment, you can expect an inflammation (reddening) of the skin which usually lasts for a few hours but sometimes can last up to 48 hours.
1.0mm


This is the maximum length to use on the face, at least for women whose skin is naturally  thinner than men's. On the body, a 1mm roller can also be used for light stretch marks.
  • Can be quite painful, so applying a topical anesthetic is recommended.
  • Use once every week if used lightly, or once every 2 weeks if used vigorously.
  • Skin will be reddish for 1-3 days.

1.5mm

Recommended for use on the body for scars and  for deeper stretch-marks.
  • Usually too painful to use without a topical anesthetic.
  • A minimum of 3 weeks interval between treatments is recommended, even if it looks like your skin has completely healed. Some websites even suggest 4-6 weeks.
    When treating stretch marks, do not expect miracles! - it takes a long time to see even initial results.
    Personally, it took me 4-5 months to fade my own stretch marks by approx. 25%. The good news is that even at this relatively small percentage of improvement the different is evident - and already will make you feel more confident about your appearance.
  • Expect the skin to become red and possibly sensitive to the touch for up to a week.

2.0mm +
Some online shops offer models with lengths of up to 2.5mm. You should know that needles that are too long could actually do more damage than good in the long run, so I personally avoid anything longer than 1.5mm.
The exception to this rule is males treating deep stretch marks or scars on their fleshier parts (like thighs and buttocks) or on the back.

56 comments:

  1. Good information! I was going to buy the 2.5mm but after reading this article I think I'll start with the 1.5m and go from there.

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  2. Thank you for this article and blog! I just got the Dr. Roller (1.0) I ordered from dr-roller-shop and it is far better than the MT roller I had used before... You can really see and feel the difference in quality. I think people should not waste their time with other brands.

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  3. I was wondering if it is ok to use another roller in between the 1.5mm. For example, I would use a 1.5mm every 6 weeks. Could I also use a 1.0mm every 2 weeks or would a 0.75mm or 0.5mm be better?

    Thanks in advance.

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  4. I know they say you should only use a 1.5mm every 6 weeks but personally I found that for me 3-4 weeks are enough. In between I sometimes roll with a 0.5mm (or even lightly with a 1.0mm) while applying my serum just so that it would be absorbed better in the skin.

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  5. I'm interested! :)

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  6. I just started my first treatment today with the 1.5 dr roller. Was wondering when would be the next session. How long did you wait until you rolled again? I was thinking 3 weeks??? Also, I purchased all the recommended serums for stretch marks. Am I suppose to slab it on before I roll, and then massage in after I finish? I'm talking about the celulital acid and whitening products on the website. I too also purchased the meso cell but don't know how I feel about it. The turn out of your stretch mark journey is great! Was it due to your homemade serums??

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  7. I suggest you wait 3-4 weeks before rolling again. If the serum is suitable for use with a dermaroller (i.e. no preservatives etc.) then yes you can apply it just before rolling and then again after.

    Regarding my home-made serum, I believe it contributed to the success, yes. I will soon stop selling it though (takes too much time), but I think I will be publishing the list of ingredients so that people will be able to make it in their own home if they want to.

    Good luck!

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  8. 1)Would it be okay if I used Vitamin E as my serum? I've heard it's a moisturizer(my skin tends to be a bit dry) and it helps with discoloration also.
    2)I always have to wear makeup when I go to school, because I'm so self conscious about my appearance. If I use my 1.0mm derma roller on Friday and not wear makeup for the weekend, would it be okay to wear it again on Monday when I go back to school?
    -Thanks.

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  9. 1) If it's only vitamin E, then I don't see a reason not to use it.

    2) I'm pretty sure you can go back to your regular skin care routine (including wearing make-up) about 1 day after rolling.

    Good luck!

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  10. I bought a derma roller 2.0 but I thought that it does not work with me after that, when I rolled on the part of my body was no redness after the. My stretch marks are deep. So I was thinking of buying 1.5 as you recommended. But will it work on me, I can use vitamin E cream and against pakterie? how long should I roll each time? very thanks Sam for responding

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  11. @maya - I'm not sure I follow you. If anything, 1.5mm should cause less redness than 2.0mm because its needles are shorter. You can use vitamin E cream but no anti-inflammatory ones. Roll 4 times in each direction (up and down, left-right and then diagonal). I Hope this helps. Good luck!

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  12. can I use betadine or dettol as a alcohol.

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  13. Hi I really need help! Ever since the age of 15 I've had stretch marks EVERYWHERE. Behind legs, thighs, butt, boobs, and now it's developing in my upper arms. I'm only 17. When I go to weddings I wear jeans because I can't show my hideous legs. Someone please help me! Does does actually work? I'm willing to wait even up to 2 years for this to work as long as it does work.

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  14. I would recommend giving it a try.

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  15. Hi,

    Isn't it true that you should slowly introduce your skin to dermarollers? (Actually just the same way the Copper Peptides work)

    For example, if i wanted to treat some deep stretchmarks on my hips, i first use a derma roller with needle length 0.2, and then increase slooowly to 0.3, 0.5, 1.0, 1.5.
    Or can i just immediatly start with needle length 1.0 or 1.5 for my deep stretchmarks?

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  16. Not that I'm aware of... I used the 1.5mm right from the start on my stretch marks.

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  17. Hello HDR,

    I have 2 questions about needle lengths.

    1:
    Which needle length is recommended to use for a scar in the face? (NOT acne, just a scar)

    2:
    You wrote that you have to use a 0.5mm Dermaroller for treating light acne scars.
    What if you have HEAvy acne scars in the face?

    P.s Thanks for making this blog.

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  18. @Noa - On face scars your best bet is a 1.0mm roller along with a good serum. Good luck!

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  19. when do you use serum? before or after treatment, thanks

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  20. Which serum is recommended to use for a scar in the face after treatment? thnx

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  21. 1. You should apply the serum just before rolling and then directly after.

    2. For scars any nourishing serum can be used. Some use Copper Peptide serums. Serums with vitamins A+C+E may also be useful.

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  22. Hi. I bought a scentia dermaroller and when it got it the packaging says dr.roller. I see that the site you've shared sells it for 40 dollars cheaper! Owndoc said that scentia uses the same roller but sells it for a higher price. I liked the results of the scentia "dr.roller" but it's really expensive. Does dr-roller-shop.com sell the same roller as scentia??

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  23. Hi. I have a quick ? Can you give a good serum to use for before and after rolling? I have acne scars on my face. Thank you so much.

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  24. @Anh - Yes, there is only one Dr.Roller, Scentia is just a company that put their box and label on a Dr.Roller to charge twice as much as to compensate for their extensive advertising budget.

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  25. @Arcely - Use any serum with natural vitamins A, C (and also possibly E). Rolling is the main thing here, though.

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  26. Hello, (nice and useful article) I was wondering what size should be the roller for my ance scars in my face? And could i put vitamins after using the roller? And What size should I use for stretch marks in my stomach and back? Thank you, email me (juanochoasave13@gmail.com).

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  27. Hi I bought a 2 mm for my strech marks . I bought 2 So do u advice me to use them or no ? Can they do any harm ? I can also like use it every 5 weeks cos its 2 mm . Can I use it on my breast too or its too much ? Thanks alot . I am scared from the side effects Plz help me Thanks

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  28. Hi, I don't think there will be any side effects if the skin is not very thin. But 2.0mm will be quite painful so better use Emla or Super Numb. Also, 5 weeks between treatments sounds reasonable. Even 4 weeks would be OK.

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  29. @save - thank you. For scars on the face 1.0mm or max 1.5mm. For the body - 1.5mm or max 2.0mm. Vitamins after rolling is always advised (especially vitamins A C E). Good luck!

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  30. Hi Homeroller,

    I've been reading your website with great interest and have decided to purchase the 1.0mm Dr. Roller for acne scars on my face. I've also purchased the 100% EGF Serum from Dr. Roller.

    You mentioned above that serums can be applied 'just before rolling and then again after'. Here are my questions:-

    1. How long does the serum need to be on the face before I begin rolling?
    2. Can I also apply the serum immediately after the final roll or should I wait for a few minutes?
    3. I've seen videos of a person applying Vitamin E oil (pierced from capsules) in the middle of a roll. He then applied aloe vera after washing off the Vitamin E oil. Is this whole process recommended?
    4. Should I consider applying anything else before and after rolling, and during the 'healing' process. ie. can I apply the EGF serum and then the Vitamin A C E, aloe vera, mixing these 3, etc. etc.

    Apologies for the many questions. Just want to cover all bases as this is the first time I'm doing this.

    Cheers

    Cairo



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  31. Hi Cairo
    1. Apply the serum (on clean skin) and begin to roll right away.
    2. Apply it immediately after rolling (although a few minutes won't matter). Be sure to first test it on a small area to make sure your skin doesn't overreact (it shouldn't burn).
    3. You could do that, it won't hurt to try. Both are good for the skin.
    4. No need to over do it. Rolling by itself should do most of the work. Vitamin C is always recommended on days when you are not rolling as well. And vitamin A will be good for the scars.

    Good luck! I recommend you keep a diary or blog with pictures of your face before and after every treatment, because when several months have passed it is sometimes hard to tell how much really has changed (it is very gradual).

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  32. Hi i have deep strech marks on mu belly, whats the best size for this and where can you get them from cheep ?

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  33. @Jody Hi, I would say an 8-line 1.5mm roller. If you want a genuine Dr.Roller which is the best quality, order from www.dr-roller-shop.com, you get a discount for orders over $50 by using my coupon too. Good luck!

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  34. hello umm...
    1. can i use the liquid from vitamin pills on my stretch marks?
    2. im a guy and i have stretch marks what length do i use?


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  35. hello
    1. Anything you can eat you can surely use on your skin. If it's not too "crystally" then I don't see a reason why not do it.
    2. 1.5mm or 2.0mm (both can be a bit painful on some body parts so be sure to use a numbing cream). Also know that it will be a few good months before you notice significant results. (could even take a year).
    Good luck!

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  36. hi homeroller which size can i use for treatment of hair loss

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  37. Hi, I would say 0.5 mm or even just a 0.25 mm.

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  38. Hi
    What is the best brand for dermaroller and what is the difference between them?
    Dr roller
    Mt roller
    New spa roller (titanium or stanlsteel)
    Ztgs roller

    After using on my face is it ok to put honey with some orange
    And on my stretch mark is it ok to use shia and cocoa butter

    And if I use1.5 for strech mark how many time a week do I use it

    Also .5 for my face every what do I use it

    Thank you very much in advance

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  39. Hi.. DR Roller is considered the best... I've heard good things about DRS derma roller (540 needles) too. I wouldn't put honey or orange directly after dermarolling (maybe a few hours later). Shia and cocoa are fine (for vitamin E) as long as the products don't have other ingredients added to them.

    For 1.5mm , use it only once every 4-5 weeks.
    0.5mm for the face - you can use it 2-3 times a week.

    Good luck!

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  40. HI I wanna ask if want 2 apply it to my eyes what is z best size...thanks

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    1. Use a 0.25mm roller for under the eyes if you must. Don't use it over the eyeball or beneath your eyebrows. And NEVER over the eyelids of course.

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  41. I am a male and have a deep large stretch mark on my stomach to groin...i also have some on my love handles that are almost 10years old and a lot smaller,faded and white unlike the other. would a 2.0 be okay to use there since its fat deposits are adequete? also i have tried using retin a and other skin serums in the past for this and other scars and have noticed them to be almost useless and i am the thought of they are a waste...are they really needed or is rolling the main importance? also some people use a single needle and a differrent roller and a 5 star technique, any info on that?

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    1. My guess is you can use a 2.0mm. Note it will be painful without some numbing cream. I don't know much about single needling, I mean I've read about it but to me it seems too difficult to perform correctly with chance of scarring. But I'm not an expert or anything. I suggest rolling for 8-12 months, every month or so with regeneration creams such as Vitamin C , EGF (growth factor) and so on. This is your best bet. It won't get rid of your marks 100% but you can significantly improve them (50-60%).

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  42. Hello I would like to know is it ok to use 1.5 for face and neck I had seen on youtube women was numbing her face and neck and using a higher MM is it safe also how long can I do it for and where can I get the right numbing cream

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    1. On the face you can use the 1.5mm but on the neck I'm not so sure. You'd have to be careful where the skin is really thin.
      As for numbing creams, you can either use Emla or order numbing creams from online shops such as dr-roller-shop.com.

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  43. Hello, please can you tell me how long one treatment is? like 15 min or 30 ?

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    1. It depends on the size of the area that you're treating. Face - about 5 minutes. Legs - 30-40 minutes. Buttocks - 20-30 minutes. That doesn't include the time you need to wait after applying any numbing cream.

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  44. would a 1.0mm dermaroller work on a light facial scar on my nose?? i just need to know if it will work and maybe a rough estimate on how long it will take

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    1. If the scar is sunken, it should work. Consider a 3-line roller because the nose can be difficult to roll.

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  45. Hi I have hypopigmentation on legs from laser hair removal what mm should I use?

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    1. Hi if it doesn't go away on its own, search for an all-natural skin brightening serum and use it with 1.0mm to 1.5mm roller.

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  46. I would like to use derma roller for anti aging purpose wrinkle under the eyes ...décolleté and neck any suggestion ? Better 0.5 or 1 mm ? How many time a week to see results ? Shall I try a professional session or directly at home ? I don't like to use chemical I will not use a numbing cream ...any other brand a part dr roller ? :) thank you

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    1. Hi. For wrinkles around the eyes (not under) I'd use a 0.5 mm or even 1.0 mm, but under the eye is a different issue: I wouldn't use anything above 0.25 mm, with a good under-eye serum. By the way, you can get away without numbing cream if you use any needle length under 1.5mm. 0.5 mm doesn't really cause any pain, and the 1.0 mm is very tolerable by most people.
      As for the brand, Dr.roller is the best but others such as DRS, MT are good quality too.

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  47. hi, ihave ice pick scarring for many many years which one is best for my face 1mm 0r 1.5?

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    1. Hi. If you are a male then I suggest going straight for the 1.5 mm. Use EGF serum or vitamin C. BTW, be careful not to roll around the eyes!

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